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All right, this episode of How Long Gone is brought to you by Stateside with Kai and Carter, a new podcast from The Guardian. And they are using this podcast to slow down the news and wrestle with the questions that we all have about what's happening in the world. And they do it three times a week, Jason. Does that sound familiar to you? We don't really talk about, you know, a lot of international global news items and climates and cultures and sports and things like that. We do talk about fashion and wellness, but for everything else, Kai and Carter are a great place. All right, so who couldn't use more news? Listen wherever you get your podcast. or watch on YouTube. How long gone? I'd like to talk about it. That's what we're here to do. Chris Black coming to you. Let's get into it. From Atlanta, Georgia. Here with my illustrious co-host jason stewart aka them jeans um what's really good bro you know just getting my got my coffee lined up got my rambler lined up got my magnet lined up got my lucy breakers lined up got my uh got my pure beauty edibles my poppers Coming at you. That's my stack is what we call it in the biz. Now we're calling that a boy lunch is what we're calling that. That's what that is. A real man lunch, if you will. We're having a man lunch. Yeah, there's no bacon, egg, and cheese over here. I'm just different kind of pills and gummies and beverages is sort of what I'm on. Gummy is the most popular form of ingestion these days. So I'm waiting for everything. You think I'll be able to have a bacon, egg, and cheese gummy in the next two years? I feel like I will. Who are we talking about? The beef gummy? Oh, with Gelb, the restaurant where the gummy bear comes out that's beef flavored. I mean, that's... That's something that, like, a liver guy would eat now. That's not even that hard of a sell. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We're going in the wrong direction. We're going, like, banh mi gummies. And he's like, no, just beef fat.

Just powdered bones ground down and flavored with more beef. I love a powdered bone. That's one of my favorites. They're opening for Primus right now. I was going to say, that does sound like a helmet side project, but you can't. Okay, Kristen is back. Sorry, I was a couple minutes late. The class, a lot of our listeners and guests can relate to this dilemma. Carolyn, she's balls deep in a lot of jobs right now. fashion, styling-wise. So a lot of packages coming in and out. And we got that one box that dropped one minute before wheels up on how long gone. And it's the essence package. And the delivery driver needs something before he can drop it off. Can you guess what it is? I'm going to assume that's duties paid, is my guess. It was not a signature. It was $287. So did you reach into your TJ piggy bank and take care of that? Or did Carolyn have some petty cash in her office? I called my forever wife twice. She, of course, didn't answer first one. Second one means it's business. And she said that she'll just go over to the post office tomorrow and pay for it with the credit cards. And so we don't have to dip into the PC. Oh, wow. That's OK. That's nice. That's nice of her. I mean, you know, marriage is about everything being each other's problem, you know, so that's that's that track. And, you know, I offered I was like, you know, obviously, I don't I don't I don't handle checks myself, but other people do that for me. but you know i was like oh because if the check is coming from my name and it's for you it's gonna get tricky so we better not have me pay for it right now just to be safe just to be safe let's not cross streams i actually have a i have a done to death projects llc checkbook that i will get out i'll get out on occasion because i feel like it still comes up you know once in a while don't let me get this checkbook out but i'm glad i got up at 4 a.m after going to the Stevie and I went to Diner last night, still the only good restaurant in Brooklyn. Okay, so you went to go to see MJ Lenderman. Yeah. Then you went to Diner. Then you met the future mayor of New York. No, I went to Diner first, then went to see Jake. Okay, my bad. The future mayor of New York was backstage because he was introducing Jake.

He's a fucking pro. I haven't spent a lot of time with politicians, as you can imagine. But wow, he really had those motherfuckers fired up. Okay. So I hate to push back on you, Chris, as you know this. I remember Coachella just a couple weeks ago when Bernie did this for Claro. Oh, I don't like it. You were very unhappy about it. How do you feel about this one? Oh, I don't like it at all. Keep politics out of my rock and roll. But he was a pretty compelling. guy when i was talking to him in one-on-one you know what i mean i gotta keep you an honest man on these airwaves chris no please i hate you know i hate everything it's no problem it's no problem and you can keep me honest it was just an interesting i didn't expect it and then i forget that when you do something like that in a crowd like that they're just losing their fucking minds because everyone agrees with you you know what i mean whereas bernie bernie at coach everyone but you no no i agree with him i just i don't give a Bernie situation is at Coachella is probably a little tougher of a crowd, I would say. Overall, I'm sure it's positive. All the people at the MJ show, it's a little preaching to the choir. Everyone else got a sitter and was planning on voting for the Zohan anyway, whereas Claro... It's like a bunch of people who are definitely not even registered to vote on their second pill who are like, dude, there's an old guy on stage. No, it's, yeah, a little bit like that, I think. I mean, that's the way I want it to be in my boomer brain, but it's really more. I think Zohan is like, I think it's more about like getting these young people to vote and they'll vote for him versus. Also, to be clear, just to signify, it is Zohran. And we are saying Zohan in jest. Oh, it is. Okay. Say it again? Zohran Mamdani. I was supposed to shoot him for something, actually, and then it didn't work out because of timing. Anyway. Trouble on the hill. More importantly, I did get to spend time with Jake Linderman's parents, the Lindermans. Meet the Lindermans? I met the Lindermans, and his dad, I was like, oh, hey, I'm Chris. What's up? And he's like, wait, wait, wait, wait.

chris black and i was like yeah that's me he's like oh man i love how long gone and then went into a whole he was really a he really knew his stuff he was really a listener it was sick so the whole family's down with how long gone it was good to see so you were you were expecting him to be like oh another cartel fan all right what do you want me to do you want me to sign a cd or something yeah yeah no he so but then you but you went to the show what'd you eat at diner by the way it's a food podcast now we had a fava and p something something and we had some crudo we had some crudo we had the french fries which are amazing we had the caesar salad which is also amazing um and then we had some asparagus of course okay so aside from the the fries and the caesar is kind of a bottom meal bottomer meal yeah it was a it was a bottom it was bottom meal well you know stevie stevie and i and when you're like we keep it light you know what i'm saying we had to we had to go we had to go rock But, yeah, he's doing three nights at Brooklyn Steel. It's pretty amazing. That's big. I'm really happy for him, yeah. But I left there at, you know, went to bed about around midnight, woke up at 4 a.m., got on my Delta flight, and now I'm just in beautiful Atlanta behind the wheel of the all-new Mercedes EQS 450, which I got a full crash course, like I got a full lesson right off the plane from the Mercedes staff. which was these cars do a lot of shit that I don't realize they do. Get into it. The most interesting thing. Thankfully, we have a food guy and a car guy on our show today. We can really pick his brain about this. The thing about it that was most interesting to me, and I don't know if the Tesla offers this, but this car is obviously fully electric, but it has settings for noise, so you can make it sound like the fast-ass car it is inside to you, but it doesn't. I don't think you hear it outside, which is pretty crazy. Yeah, that's one of Carolyn's gripes when we were driving the EV G-Wagon, was that G-Wagon rumble being replicated. It just felt wrong for her. But also, in cars in general's defense,

It has to sound like something or else it's creepy. That's kind of what the dude was telling me. He was like, yeah, otherwise there's just dead silence. It's kind of weird. And it's also quite dangerous. Yeah, that's what I was... But it has all these like... settings and i like had to log it's a whole thing but i i adjusted the all the sound for my ears which was pretty funny because i'm like i can't tell the fucking difference but i'll go through this with you so like the sound guy with the ipad walking around brooklyn steel that was you but in a four-door that is 100 was me yeah and then um okay but yeah i figured out how to charge it luckily rylan and i set sail tomorrow, and the Mercedes charging stations, guess where they're located, Jason? Buc-ee's. Buc-ee's. Hell yeah. So we get to hit Buc-ee's, charge the whip, and... Every 45 minutes, duck into a Buc-ee's, whether you need a charge or not. That's how good they are, right? Yeah. Chris, we got 300 miles left. No, no, no, no, no. I need some salt. I need some beaver chow. Yeah, I need some... I need some maple pecans ASAP right now. What are they called? Buckyballs? I forgot what they're called. Buckyball is a fidget spinner. They're called beaver nuggets. Those are conservative Bjornkorns. I'm interested to see. It's a really nice car. It's fucking nice. I like driving it. Vegas odds. We're talking about what color you're going to get as the freebie car. luxury vehicle that was gifted to you for a weekender, quote unquote, was the bright safety cone orange Aston Martin. So what did we get today? The Mercedes is actually a tasteful blue. It's a tasteful light blue. I called it, bro. Didn't I call it? Yeah, you did. I said, you're going to get some silver baby blue shit. Ain't no navy in this bit. It's because I guess part of the reason is they offer like, I don't know, some like 10 custom new colors just for this car that are like brand new. So I guess black is probably not one of those, which is what I would want. Look, I get it. I get it. If someone's giving you a free luxury car that costs, you know, $120,000, we don't look the gift horse in the mouth. We don't get to choose the color. I would say.

Give me the worst color. Well, the orange is a little – the orange Aston Martin SUV is a little bit – A little bit more of a head turner than the blue sedan. Well, yeah, exactly. I want to turn less heads when I'm going 120 on 75 South. You know what I mean? When you're driving an electric Nazi sled through the Appalachian Trail, you want to keep up more of a lower pro. We're going the opposite way, brother. We're going to the Panhandle. We're going to Florida. I mean, but it's not that much different. Going to Florida, the orange car would be less of a head turner, actually. Coincidential. It matches the people of the state's skin. Your car ain't even orange. You ain't from around here, are you, boy? What the hell? All right, we do have a guest today. A friend of the show, John Buscemi, is joining us. I'm sure you know him from his – he's had several successful ventures over the years. He has a new golf brand. It's the only golf brand that looks – Good. It's called Redan. And he also has a lot of high-end automobiles. He smokes hella cigars. I mean, he's living the life, bro. He's living the life. Truff hot sauce. He's on the ground floor of Uncle Pauly's Deli. I mean, this guy's a shredded lettuce kingpin. He's a shredded lettuce kingpin. Let's give him a Zoom. This episode of How Long Gone is brought to you by Squarespace. Obviously, Jason, you and I spend a lot of time on the World Wide Web, so do our peers, our listeners, our friends, our colleagues, maybe even your parents if they're freaky. And if you're doing anything in the world, writing, taking pictures. I do topless boxing. You need a website. Exactly, a website that works, that does what it's supposed to do, that allows you to be creative but also business-minded. Jason, there's one place to go for that, Squarespace. Yeah, Chris, I'm over here. I'm modifying calculators and putting Claude inside of them so you could cheat at school. And I just want a place where I could, you know, have everything all in one place. I can have the SEO tools so those future graduates can find me. And, you know, I'm able to accept, quote, unquote, donations for my services that might be gray area.

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I just take it in. I just take it in. That's what Pauly's for. What's up with this rider, bitch? She's a bozo. You guys need to talk about cool stuff. Pauly hit me at like seven... 45 like good luck on the pod today i'm like what the what are you in my calendar no we we're in a group chat with him and al wilmot where oh wow you know we're information like this gets exchanged they were on this talking shit about pia and davide at one point right i mean that's probably i think i think actually they were on pia's podcast talking shit about pia and davide oh wasn't they never been on this one never been no that no paul Pauly has. Pauly has. Al knows better. Al knows that he's got investors. Check out Pauly on the new season of The Bear on FX, June 15th. That's right. Such a cameo he makes. So did you think, did you, did you, because you're on ground floor with Pauly. Did you see this turn? Did you see him? No, I like staked him like a golfer. You know what I mean? Like, you know what I mean? Like, I was like, he was out here working for A-Life. I was like, I invest in people, you know? He's got it. He's got it. So you paid for all of his acting lessons? You paid for his headshots and everything? No, no. I believed in him, man. He's like, well, kind of. A lot of people believed in him. A lot of people believed in him. A lot of people believed in him, including his wife. And everyone loves, I mean, everyone loves Pauly, right? Men and women alike. The newly sober Pauly? Yeah. Amazing. Yeah, he was heading for the door. So I'm glad that he figured it out. Oh, yeah. Glad he figured it out. Those 5 a.m. kitchen stories about the same, like, you know, story. You know what I mean? Like four years in a row, five years in a row. Yes, I do. Yes, I do know what you mean. Chris knows this. I know a lot about that. And now it's about how good the peptides make me feel, huh? Exactly. Peptides. How many businesses you start in people's kitchens in the Hollywood Hills after 5 a.m. I feel like, look, you're a serial entrepreneur. I'm sure all of yours haven't been launched under, you know, the best circumstances. That's true. Good point. The most successful ones have been, you know, ideated in like a lunch in Beverly Hills, you know, in the day. Oh, that's nice. There's no good ones that come out of.

You know, Brocky's house, you know, at 5 a.m. up in Beachwood Canyon. Yeah, I do know what you mean. I totally know what you mean. You know that scene. Because you live in Pasadena now? Hank never had a good business idea after 4 a.m. He had a good mashup that he just came up with, but not a good business guy. No, he's the best. I mean, he's the best. Love the Corsons. The Corson family, you know, just a couple of legends, you know, coming and straight from the source, from their pops. I don't know if you ever met the dad. No. You'll understand it all when you meet him. They're chips off the old block. Absolutely. Absolutely. So Chris said you're in Pasadena now. Is that correct? Yeah, I'm in San Marino, Pasadena. Oh, so you made the switch. You're out there now. I'm out here, yeah. I'm in the suburbs. No helicopters. You call the police. They come in under three minutes. I can walk to the Huntington Garden. Yeah. My house, which is nice. So you replace gay guys with Asian families. It's a smart heading east. I spend I'm in San Marino probably every weekend one way or another. It's the gateway for me to go get food in San Gabriel Valley. Yeah, we've been always go through San Marino. We've exhausted. You could probably not eat all the good restaurants in your lifetime here, but we've been to a lot of them. Yeah. The new one, Henry. We've been to Henry's a couple of times the last month, which is. I highly recommend that. I've been going there for years, actually, because my wife's mom has been going there forever. She knows Henry. Wow. But that place is crazy. Can you guys explain? I've never been to San Marino. Can you guys explain Henry's to me? Okay, so San Marino. It's not what you think it is, Chris. Well, first of all, San Marino is the original affluent community of Los Angeles. I think it's 1901. okay the huntington family i'm familiar with the gardens i'm familiar with the such a garden right so like to just picture yeah a bunch of that but that garden was like you know that was just a piece of her or their property and anyway this is where you know people this is before hancock park okay and then obviously before beverly hills so but i don't know the origin of why there's so many chinese people here that's a mystery to me but the arcadia monterey park you know

San Gabriel Valley is just like, what is it? A thousand Chinese restaurants. I don't know. Probably more. But Henry's by all like you, like I was there with the CEO of didn't type fun and, and, and Jamie Patrick off and my boy, Matt and Teddy carrots. Like these are like, there's like Jeff Bezos eats at Henry's. You know what I'm saying? Straight real talk. What is the food at Henry's Chinese? It's the best Chinese food restaurant arguably in the entire United States. Okay. Is the vibe good or bad, or is the food just good? The vibe inside is insane. Okay. It's the best vibe. It's like if Martin Scorsese has to film a Chinese restaurant, it's fucking Henry's. Okay, got it. It's verbatim. It's perfect verbatim what you want. My favorite thing about Henry's cuisine, I think, is what it's called. It's sort of booth style, so you get, you know, like you and each of your family members. Lazy Susan. Big dishes. And they'll bring out the king crab with the giant wingspan to your table before they serve it up on the noodles or whatever. But the adornments everywhere are these spray-painted lobster shells and crab shells all over the restaurant. But it's spray-painted like silver and gold. Sure. So it's very kind of like jailhouse, janky style. a michelin uh recognized restaurant 100 i why haven't why is no one taking me here what's the what did i do too white it's bib gourmand i don't think it's a star they get like bib gourmand it doesn't it doesn't have a michelin star but they're they're on the michelin it's a hot bib every year a hot bib can we go jason can you take me there or is it too hard is it a tough take no no no we can go there we can go there but it's best to go with the group because the portion you know you one one dish Yeah, I'll go with you and your family-in-law. Okay. I fit in nicely there. We'll get some bitter melon soup to celebrate the new year. Two turnt up white boys just having some soup. That sounds great. They love that in the San Gabriel Valley. Have you tried that one there, John? I have. And the last time I went, and I don't want to flex. I've tried it. The last time I went, we went with 12 people.

dried chicken skin and chicken like hand roll for us that like Vietnamese you have to order this thing if you know Henry you get text him in advance and he makes this like very long pause hand roll like super long like it's about three feet long he cuts it up and it's like basically like a Chinese rice yeah hand roll with chicken and vegetables on the middle of it and with the sauce it's crazy it's crazy and then they're also known for that shrimp dish they make this crazy like soy sauce shrimp that's like i mean it's out of the place is nuts every this thing's off the menu there it's it's a wild ride i definitely recommend it yeah is it local to la or do people come from out of town like i want to go here yeah you see like you know like intellectual white people eating there you know what i mean oh that's really that's really nice of you to say that about jason because i i would describe him differently now you see like guys that look like uh what was that guy's name gold from the la times like those type of motherfuckers Like badly dressed white men with bad haircuts and bad shoes. That's when you know it's good, though. Then it's good. Those guys are real. Thank you for not putting some respect on Jonathan Gold's name. Pulitzer Prize winning, famously dead. restaurant critic carry on john but but also but he had a bad i mean he looked like shit no one would say no food critic terrible no food critic shouldn't if a food critic doesn't look like shit he was from balicious we'll call it but oliver platt and chef like had like a some style you know so that it just threw you off it throws it throws the critic off that's true um but uh um what what the fuck was i about to say um so you're there with a big group Yeah, and there were the big groups. Yeah, that's all I was saying. But I was going to say something else about – oh, along with that, it's like literally non-English-speaking Chinese families everywhere, which you want, right? That's what you want. That is what you want. You want that. You want that. Who is the CEO of Din Tai Fung? I'm going to – I had wine that night.

I had wine that night. He's a young man. He's probably in his late 30s or early 40s. Jamie introduced him. You can look it up online. I'm spacing on his name, but really cool guy. We'll pull up his LinkedIn. Yeah. We talked about doing – I think Dintai Fun needs clothing and merch. They need like a – Matsuhisa Sushi Club collection by Chris Stamp. Yeah. That's just what they need. They need that. When you walk in, they need a little... Yeah. They need that kiosk. Because the business is going so poorly, they should figure out a way to make some cash. All joking aside, the kiosk would bang. No, it would bang, right? Like, if it was good. If they had more than just the stuffed dumpling logo, you know, like a plushie. And if they could maybe sell some... puzzles or games that people could kind of kill the the four-hour wait with that would be nice maybe something for the yeah exactly like that uh the cracker barrel triangle puzzle game one of the great like chinese style one of the greatest games best of all time i you know i was thinking i was thinking about cracker barrel the other day because i'm in atlanta and i haven't been in so long and i wonder How it would taste. I can't remember. It's got to taste disgusting. It's got to be so nasty. It's mostly for vibes. It's mostly for vibes because it's like a Disneyland type thing. Or a hangover, like long drive, a hungover human that needs to drive. 400 miles maybe you want to eat that that's that might be your only option in that situation you're craving some confederate vibes you know exactly did the podcast start yet yeah yeah oh yeah we started a long time the podcast started actually it's interesting that you bring up um dintai feng and i'm glad that we have a food person on because when we had david uh the producer of Chef's Table and Gero Dreams of Sushi on. Gelb. I listened to the whole thing. Trust me. The homie Gelb, you may have listened to it, but I had some left. I listened to Front to Back with Gelb. Boom. What parents this guy has. What parents this guy got blessed with. Right? Such a pedigree with this guy, huh? Sorry to cut you off, but my mom was a teacher and my dad worked for social services in Nassau County. It's like that. You described his parents. Wow, you grew up with a dad? That must have been nice, Jim. Anyway, go ahead. Go.

But I was thinking about Din Tai Fung when over the last, it seems like, two or three years, every month there's an article in Grub Street or Eater or whatever about how, like, Hillstone is, like, a thing now. And it's been a thing for so long. A thing now? Wow. Well, I mean, well, that's, like, there's still, like, a week ago. There was another article about like, what's up with Hillstone? It's like a restaurant that, you know, like, so it's like been beaten to death. And then they dug the body up and killed it again. And it's just over and over. But no one is writing these think pieces about Din Tai Fung, which is sort of the same game plan, in my opinion. Just on an even bigger and more efficient scale. Absolutely, and the consistency game. How can you get it right every time, all the time? I've been to some off-market Den Tai Fung locations. I've been to Seattle and weird shit. And it bangs. It bangs. All of them are that busy. All of them are that good. It doesn't matter where you go. It's impressive. Also, it's very... I think the first one's in Shanghai. Actually, funny enough, I think Pauly and I went to it during that weird Edison Chen intersect conference that they flew us out. We made sandwiches in Shanghai for a week. But anyway, we went to the original one, I really believe. It's crazy how consistent it is. It's insane. Did it taste better than the one in South Coast Plaza or just the same? No, that's what I'm saying. No, it's the same, dude. It's just the same. The pork chop's the same. The cucumber stack is the same with the little red dot on top. I would also like to give a shout out to their delivery and to-go packaging, which I also think is very nice. A sign of a good business as well. I've noticed that with California Chicken Cafe as well. They've got that packaging done so well. I guess the other defining thing about it or why I think they should be talking about it more is like Hillstone, it does have all of that continuity down. It's the same everywhere. The quality never goes down. But a lot of the food is not necessarily great. I think they have some good items, but it's not like, holy shit, this is the best, blah, blah, blah. But you eat a Zhao Long Bao at Dintai Feng and you're like, this is up there with...

as good as you can get right that's right absolutely right and i get the chicken sandwich at hillside i'm like it's good no but most people want a chicken sandwich most people don't want a bowel that's why it's like in america i'm saying you know that's why that's right but when i'm when i'm eating the food at houston's i'm like yes the lighting is good the atmosphere is good the service is good they filled up my martini ice that's good But I'm eating the burger. I'm like, I'm thinking of the 11 places where they got a better burger. The fries are good, but this place and this place. At Din Tai Fung, I'm not thinking that. I'm like, this is fucking, the shit is hitting. I also think like with Hillstone, I always get that. I don't know if you go to the Pasadena Houston's. That's like the classic. That's my closest. That feeling of the lighting, the koi fish, the... They have a framed blanket from the first Pendleton release. All those little moments make me all warm and fuzzy inside, and then the burger's not that great, right? I mean, the ribs are not Moosecraft barbecue, but it's just Moosecraft barbecue doesn't have that lighting. It's the lighting. I would like to throw in a third challenger into the ring, Mellow Mushroom. Very consistent in the same way Houston's is. The employees are a little crustier, I would say, but the product remains good at all the locations I've ever visited. Good to know. The theme of the restaurants is... I believe they allow the... Each location can choose their own adventure in terms of decor. From a selection of decor, they all... I think it's like a catalog that the franchisee... I believe so, because it's different, but it's all the same. Like Ninja Turtles. You can get the purple one or the blue one and have fun with it. Well, Hillstone is kind of similar too, right? Like, I'm in Palm Beach. you know, half the year now. And, you know, the Palm Beach Grill, East Hampton Grill. Yeah, we'll get to that. But anyway, they're all the same but different. You know, Honor Bar in Montecito is a little bit different than Beverly Drive. Yeah. Anyway. My favorite is the one down in Newport.

I always forget what it's called, but it has a boating thing. The one on Peachtree Street right here in Atlanta where Diddy used to go is number one. Pull up. I have this office in Venice for the new biz, and we're trying to order shit for the office, and I go on eBay. I'm like a magazine eBay troll. I look for like... This guy sells like 700 National Geographics for a dollar each. You get the lot. I buy the lot. So I bought the GQ 1997 to 2003, like every issue. Nice run. There's like a 2000, I think it's post-Shine J-Lo Club. Diddy got the cover of GQ. You should look this up. I'll take a picture of it. he's really the bad boy you know what i mean like 2001 and a half like pre-9-11 dude he's getting the cover of gq like this guy's a bad guy that's where he should be that's where he should have been at the time i mean it's just crazy 24 years ago i can only imagine how shiny he looked he was famous for like my and i mean since i can remember i'm 42 and he's famous as for as long as i can oh i have a great story christmas eve there's a there's a place on 14th street called uh, right next to Nell's. It was called, uh, oh my God. Nell's the famous New York nightclub. Yeah. There's a, there, there was a, those small time. I'm going to, I think it might be called it up and down, up and down was up and down was there. You already know I've DJed there multiple times. No, but up and down. And I'm telling 1999 Christmas Eve. Okay. We were there. It wasn't called up and down. Someone's going to call in and tell us. No, we have some old heads. He was in there, man, with. some like downtown like transsexual humans and like models like famous models they're like four in the morning we're all in there and like you get i mean it's crazy how long he got away with this shit man it was unbelievable unbelievable okay i just i did some googling i did some googling set in the space that formerly housed nels and the dirt and the darby

I think it was the Darby. The Darby. The Butter Group transformed the venue into a better group. Oh, geez. Shout out to the Butter Group. Shout out to the Butter Group. Is that like Adam Goldman? Adam Goldman? Is that Richie Akiva's group originally? I think it's Richie Akiva. I think he just got arrested, though. Shout out to Richie Akiva, though. He got arrested for what? Didn't he get arrested recently? One of those guys, not Scott Sartiano, but one of those kind of guys, not Tepperberg or whatever, but one of those guys got arrested recently. Yes. I'm sure it was just tax evasion or something. Leonardo DiCaprio's nightlife companion, Richie Akiva, arrested in Soho over the weekend. A couple of weeks ago. Or like a month ago. Nothing worse than getting popped leaving, you know, lower fish bar on Mercer, you know, in cuffs. On the way to Sub-Mercer. This feels like bullshit because it says the reason why I got popped is driving on a suspended license. Well, it's because they know he's evading taxes and they're just looking for anything to pinch him, you know? Allegedly. I don't want to get John started on that since he lives in Florida part-time. You know what I mean? I've got to watch this. No, I'm full-time. Just let it be known. It is full-time. I live here enough months out of the year. Let it be clear. I'm in San Marino, Florida right now. I found the GQ cover. It's literally a picture of Puffy in the bathtub. And the headline says... Oh, with all the jewelry? No, it's just him, wife beater. Yes. What? Is it 99? August 99. That's right. August 99. And the headline says, puffy in hot water. And then parentheses, in quotes, I make mistakes. It's as damning as it gets. Wait, it's not even 2001. It's August. August 99. You can grab one mint condition right now for 50 bucks. The price has gone up. This episode of How Long Gone is brought to you by a new podcast from The Guardian stateside with Kai and Carter. This is covering a lot of our bases, Jason. It's trying to slow down.

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I really think he's going to get off. I think he's going to get a very small amount of jail time. I just really have a bad feeling about it. I think it's like taking so long. I just feel like something is going to happen. You agree, John? I do agree. I think he's going to get all the way off. Completely off. I think he gets all the way off. I mean, he's going to get time served. He's been in jail a couple years. Remember, guys. Remember, guys. Look at the biggest trial. We've been seeing the biggest trials in our lives. OJ got off. Good point. And that's murder, which is... And he got money, and Puffy has money money. OJ didn't even have any fucking money. How much money do you think Puffy is... What do you think Puffy's monthly overhead is right now? with lawyer not a lot less though a lot less than it would be when he's got to buy you know what he's got to pay i mean he's pay he's his payroll is a lot less than it used to be i i i you know i gotta recuse myself or you know i mean john doesn't want to tell us he was a ground floor investor in sean john he's keeping it love i just can't wait to i can't wait to for this episode to go up and you're just gonna be like and that's when i think and then you come back real quick Kanye dropped that Sean John shirt on yay.com. Yeah. I have inside information to a ballpark figure. Guess how many people bought that shirt when it came out? Just guess. I have a ballpark, close ballpark figure. 40,000. Oh, no. Half a million. Higher. It's less than half a million. It's 200,000. 200,000 people bought the Sean John Yay shirt. A bootleg Sean John shirt. How much was the shirt? What do you think retail was? 20. It's 20 bucks. Okay. Everything's 20. Everything's 20 on that site. Print to order, though. Yeah, print to order. All right, so what's he taking home? Guess how many shipped? I don't know why the FBI hasn't arrested this man for... First of all, my son and all his friends, you know, pre-swastika chain, was buying all that shit. Right. And he doesn't ship anything. Isn't that like God? It takes the 20 bucks. I thought he ships it, but it takes like a year. No, but he didn't. He shipped the weird Gosha. A lot of stuff doesn't go through. I can go in my son's room. You can see like all the like Marnie like fur slides and Gosha sweatpants and everything and vintage fat. My son's like that.

I thought your son was like a professional golfer. No, he can play golf. He switched his style up. He's wearing vape at 14, chrome hearts at 11. Is he in college? Next year. Okay, so he's a high school senior. Yeah, but it's funny. These high school kids, dude, pre-swastika chain, they were still in the camp, dude. Oh, for sure. Young people don't care. Real talk, some of them still in the camp. Oh, many, many, many. They don't care, dude. They don't care. These kids could give a fuck. They're like, what? Holocaust? And we're talking about kids that are Jewish. Yeah, Jewish kids are at my house that are still in that camp like recently. But I'm asking, do they like the music or is it just the swag? Oh, the music. Guys, it's the music. Really? It's the music, and then I think enough time has passed since the Holocaust to where they're just like, I don't even know what that is. It's that, but it's so funny. Now, I was just with my son in the car. Post blowjob, cousin blowjob, they're out. Now they're all the way out. That's the line that's been drawn. That's the line. Concentration camps I could deal with, but no foo-foo shit, please. They didn't want that incest. blowjob they didn't want that look he was lucky i mean i guess we all have a cousin poured his heart out on the beat i respect him for it personally no no no i absolutely no i'm just saying i'm just letting you know i i'm i'm i'm switzerland i i don't i don't care yes yay or nay but i'm saying the kids they're like they're kind of like nah i don't i don't right but what is so is your son like a playboy cardi type exactly right 100 and also the bully Listen, I don't know. Off the record. Yes. That first Bully track? Yeah. Like bananas, dude. The one when his kid's fighting the wrestlers in the ring? I don't know if you guys caught that. Yeah, yeah. I mean, that's why Kanye is still around and we still listen to him despite all of his awful things is because when the music arrives, it is just that good. And we are at a loss of good music right now, so we excuse it even more.

Well, Stagecoach was great, I heard. What the fuck is Stagecoach? What is that? It's conservative. It's Coachella for people who ain't fags. Tennessee whiskey covers on every stage. I saw it. Is he a current LA Laker or former LA Laker? Devin Booker. D-Book got a snow bunny over there. He had a snow bunny at Coachella. Okay, that's why you go. You're just going there to get a... If you want to pick off a snow bunny in cowboy boots, that is the place to go. Fair enough. Fair enough. I'm out of that. I'm 50 years old. I'm out. Country music is very big, and I think also the old Coachella, we talked about it a lot. about how it used to be like a cultural thing and now every festival is just the same. Lollapalooza and Coachella and Rolling Loud and EDC, it all looks the same. But Stagecoach, they have a direction of how to dress up. So every single person is like, oh, it's fun to buy a cowboy hat and we can go shopping and have lunch and cut the sleeves off and get some vintage overalls. So it's all of that. hey dude brand shoe activations oh and like people doing cornhole so i'd rather do that than be with john's son at rolling loud in in fucking rick owens getting tased with the edgars i agree maybe but you know it's it's just like to me it looks like a bunch of like college kids who are 40 years old who have never given up on like wouldn't it be fun if we played dress up and listen to luke zach but you're forgetting that these guys are also like rich construction company owners yeah with two hundred thousand dollar trucks it's coming up from newport right exactly yeah it's all very yeah it's it's the rancho mirage crowd flying in from uh from From Scottsdale, Arizona. Scottsdale. Coming in from Scottsdale. Private. You've spent a lot of time in Scottsdale, right? One of my partners lives in Paradise Valley in Scottsdale. A friend of mine owns a hotel called The Sanctuary. Shout out to The Sanctuary Hotel. PV. Sam and Matt Blank from New York City. PV's a spot.

If you don't play golf, John, if you don't play golf, what do you do in Scottsdale? If you don't play golf, you don't go to Scottsdale. Who's going to Scottsdale? You have to play golf to go to Scottsdale. Well, I don't play golf, but I want to go. You've been talking golf a lot, though, on the podcast. You've been dropping golf references a lot. Have I? Yes, you have. Honestly, I did not notice. Have you noticed that, Chris? I watched the reality show about the golfers, and it did make me interested in the sport. I have to say, because I said this before, but it's just like they're not even they're just guys drinking beer, flying on a private plane, making millions. It's a pretty seems like a cool lifestyle to me. Well, it's really cool. And also, like, I think when Steve's well, I didn't play golf for a long time. And Steve Malbin, after I sold my business, the private equity, he like we were like at his house one morning. He's like, dude, what the fuck do you do all day? And I'm like. I drive my kid to school. I'm like retired. I'm like a re I'm, I'm, I'm retarded, you know? And he's like, I'm on eBay buying magazines. Exactly. I was like the same. Exactly. We had just actually started the deli. So I was kind of working on that, but he was like, come play golf with me. And it's golf. Isn't like the sport is great. Cause I used to play sports. And if you play sports, it's some way to compete as a 50 year old man. It makes sense. But it's really like how you get there. what you're doing when you get there, what you're doing after, right? And like times, like if you're in New Zealand or in Paris or in Scottsdale, right? But in LA, it was like, Steve took me, we went to this country club, we had lunch, played golf, had like cocktails after. And it was like, this is it. I used to play golf in San Diego when I worked for DC Shoes. We went to like the municipal golf course. it's really like the lifestyle part of it is the, and that sounds so corny. Well, you make the lifestyle, you make the lifestyle part of it look good. But it's not. No, it doesn't. No, you make it look good. I mean, you're talking about the playing at the municipal San Diego spot versus now, you know, and back then you're, you're carrying around like the 18 pack of Coors lights or a bubbler and you're hitting the par three and blah, blah, blah. And like, that's fun when you're in your twenties or thirties, whatever. That's right. But now you're at a certain level where.

You know, we need the valet, we need the this, we need the country club, we need the locker, we have a cigar, blah, blah, blah. And then when you do that, golf becomes what you do around. It's something to do stuff around. Exactly right. And get away from the old ball and change. What's your handicap? What's your handicap, though? Because I know you can drink and smoke, but what's your handicap? I'm a nine handicap. Let's just call it between eight and nine handicap. So I'm decent. I can get it around. I'm not great. He's an eight tree? Yeah, I'm like an eight tree. What's your go-to club? What do you feel most confident, shot-wise? When you get buried, what club are they putting in the casket with you? Are you nasty on the greens? Do you see how those things move? It's funny that you said that, man. If anyone knows me, and I've played 500 rounds of golf in the past eight years, I counted it. It's very crazy. I'm deadly with the putter. That's my thing. Oh, he's sick. All right, so your drive is a little weak, but when you get on the green. Yeah, my drive's like 240, you know. I get it out there. It's not terrible, but it's not, you know. It's cute. Once I get on the green, I got some skills. To excel in your short game, that means you've got a real talent because that's usually where most people crumble. That's right. I have a great, I can chip and putt. Let me ask you another question. obviously novice if i wanted to go play golf i'm left-handed so no one has clubs for me to use so i'd have to buy some how how much for someone like me you know me you know what i require what's the what's the entry point price that i could spend to get the four bands i'd say four i don't need like a louis bag i i just mean like the clubs the full set with a couple drivers a couple woods whatever well we could talk offline We'll get you a whole thing for free. Like, not kidding. Perfect. You just have to say one word on air and drop. Yeah, no problem. Ping. Foot joy. Foot joy. Titleist. Yeah, exactly. But, yeah, that's another thing. Like, I'm not trying to be this, like, snob, one percenter. Like, I'm the ballet and country clubs. I do. I'll play. In Palm Beach, there's the park, which is an amazing municipal golf course, which has kind of actually changed.

how municipal golf courses will look over the next 10 years. They're blueprinting like $100 day of golf with like crazy culinary, like think like, think like, you know, Roy Choi level food, right? Like it's not, it's not Rubichon, you know, but it's like, you know what I'm saying? It's like. A little better than it needs to be, but. Yeah, like John and Vinny's meets, John and Vinny's meets like a country club, but it's for the. For the public. Well, that's cool. That's smart. That's cool. And then clubs. And then clubs. The great thing about golf is it's so fucking hard. You can get lefty clubs on three or four reseller websites like right now for like 75% off and literally someone probably used them once. Hold on, John. Hold on. This is good intel, but what is the grailed of golf? I didn't know this was a thing. There's a couple of places like Bob's, which is kind of a big box retailer. They do resell. Roger Dunn, which is a well-known West Coast guy. And then there's the Play It Again Sports and those things and the Ebays of the world. But that's why I never recommend anyone buying these brand new clubs. I'm always like, go to Roger Dunn. The guy will pick out a fucking set for you that's been used once, and just use that and get into it. But let me ask you a question. Let me ask you a question. I believe your Democratic pitch for the sport, are your clubs custom-made, yes or no? Yes. Okay, that's what I thought. From the driver all the way to the putter, everything's custom-made to my exact specification. Color-wise, everything. My bag's like a brand-new Honda Accord. Okay. Like, all in. Okay, just to be clear, you don't mean the Honda Accord of bags, you mean the cost of a brand new Honda Accord. The actual cost of a Honda Accord for all my sticks. The new Honda Accord's got a screen in it and stuff. This shit ain't cheap. It's a nice car. No, no. I mean, it's like, what, $15,999 an hour or something? How much is it? I think it's more than that. Let's just say a Hyundai Elantra. Let's just say it's a Hyundai Elantra. Weren't you guys plugging the Leaf last year or something? What was happening? Nissan? Oh, yeah, we've sold the Leaf before. You sold a lot of Leafs. We're really into the environment. I saw Leafs in the street those next two months, like when you dropped that, more than I should have.

It's called the gone effect, John. I have a friend who is quite wealthy and has a bunch of cars, not unlike you. He prefers the Leaf as his daily driver. Fair enough. He's like, I love this shit. It's L.A. guy or New York. No, Atlanta. Atlanta. He's like, I love it. It's easy. I don't need to bring out the crazy. It's annoying to bring out these other cars, basically. Well, I'm glad that you transitioned to cars in comparison to buying the golf clubs, like you said. foolish to start off buying them brand new get them used blah blah blah for the luxury cars do you feel the same way i feel like i'm noticing a lot of like s classes seven series maybe some aston martins or bentley's where you can get them a few years old and they're extremely affordable absolutely and are you are you especially on the high end yeah especially on the high end yeah i am i um I'm actually pushing a 2013 Rolls Royce Phantom in Palm Beach, which is in a very paint-to-match burgundy. Yeah, the burgundy with the tan leather. First of all, obviously, we enjoy the finer things in life. But what I enjoy more than anything, I think, is... A good deal? A good deal. When a sticker of a car nine years earlier is... $424,000. And then you pick that up for like $105,000. Yeah, that's a good feeling. That's $105,[redacted address] live. It's a dream. It still turns the same amount of heads. It still gets the same respect. Oh, it's great. It's great. A new Phantom isn't going to have very good electronics and navigation anyway. Yeah, and if you have a Spectre, it's like, what are you doing with the Spectre? I saw the character that plays Jon Hamm's financial advisor. yeah he has a specter and his wife keeps being like well you could sell the specter and then she takes then she took her clothes off and then they yeah yeah and they got exactly yeah but i was always i didn't really know that was a car people actually like i've never seen one of those in real life i gotta give a big shout out to john ham i'm sure he's a friend of the he's been on the pod right no he hasn't we would love for him to though if you want to plug us i played tennis with him once in uh griffith park with a friend

That guy's the man. I play tennis next to him. He gets very loud. He gets frustrated on the court. Sober, sober Jon Hamm. But I remember drinking Jon Hamm. I don't know if he's sober now. We went to see Watch the Throne at Staples, and I was sitting next to him, and Hamm came on, and the way he was singing it. It was unbelievable. He was going meta, Hamm on Hamm. No, he was thinking it was like. About him. About him. He's looking around, pointing at himself. I got to get my wife. I wish my wife was here, dude. The way he was pointing. No, he was like, we're going ham. He's pointing at his chest. We're going ham. It was amazing. That's kind of sick, though. It was sick, dude. I like that for him. It was sick. But you don't have a drop top in Palm Beach? No. So the thing is, when I get the Palm Beach spot, I'm like. what the hell am I going to drive down here? Cause it's like, everything's got to be curated at this point. Maybe it's the OCD, the ego, all of it. Right. Of course. In LA, I drive like a, I drive, you know, a green Range Rover, whatever. Right. It's like LA. What Palm beach, what is that? Palm beach. Palm beach is like drop top Bentley, like a Zor, like, yeah, you know, puffy and biggie and the, you know, like some cream colored, like a cream thing. So I kind of look there and. And then I just came across a friend's – actually, his friend's father had a collection of cars. He's moving from Palm Beach to Midwest because he's old. He's going to live with his kids and his grandkids. Anyway, and I just went to – I literally was not looking for this car. I saw it. The price was right. It's like – florida seminal burgundy merlot with like buttercream i was like i gotta i'm buying this car you said you said the rolls looks like the seminoles it's it's a seminal it's a fucking s bobby bowden should be getting driven in this car you know what i'm saying okay okay but now with something like this how do you get the car play going like how are you yeah so that's cool i already had it they did the okay nice the thing is uh they put this it's very i wish i took i should show you a picture of it it looks like a

a radio shack job was done in the, in the glove box. There's some like Bluetooth thing that blinks that just catches your phone. And like, you could take a phone call and play, you know, your music. That's it. Transmitter. Yeah. A transmitter. And then I listened to John Mayer radio, like on repeat on serious satellite radio. My man. I love that's my favorite station, by the way. Shout out to John Mayer. Mayer radio is deeply underrated and he puts a lot of, you can feel, he puts a lot of love into it. No, he's like, he's like, uh, he played like a, Kame by like fucking Ghostface one night. Like, I don't know if you know the song Kame. I think it's a Wu-Tang song. And then he played like, you know, Belinda Carlisle. And then he played like a Grateful Dead song. I just like, I just love it. I love that guy. So you're cruising down I-95 over the bridge. That's right. And then a little Grateful Dead or some Wu-Tang comes on. I love this city. I love it here. Okay. Well, I guess speaking of Florida, Palm Beach specifically, conservative bros. I was doing my research. I listened to your appearance on Throwing Fits podcast 2021 mid-COVID. And they were asking you to predict something that might be an untapped market or something that you feel like is going to be emerging soon in the future. And you were bullish on... just conservative or Republican people in general. Absolutely. And now that we're four or five years later, I would say your prediction has oracleized greatly so. And you weren't saying like, hell yeah, MAGA in this bitch, but you're just saying there is a massive untapped market of conservative people out there who also are going to want to wear off-white clothing and go to... concerts and restaurants and buy watches and all that shit and nobody is still no one still still no one has i think kind of still it's it's i mean it may be a little bit but i always well first of all i'm a registered republican since like 1988 when i could vote uh you know billionaire boys club not pharrell the original movie and like reagan and all this shit when we were kids in long island was it was sexier than you know

whoever lost by a landslide that year to reagan right or whatever and that that's was anyway but i also voted for barack obama right i'm not you know sure and i'm this wheel i'm this weird like silent majority guy in la that's in the middle of things and it just and also so many of my i'll call it maga yeah i'm not maga but somebody my maga like golf buddies over the past seven or eight years these are like Great people, great families, great values. They're not like QAnon, shaman, maga, like, you know, style. Right. And just like in L.A., there's like my friends that are like pussy hats and fucking marches and and, you know, critical race theory shit. It's like I'm not down with that either. You know, anyway, but I just I always I always thought like. They would be sick to like do a burger chain called Reagan's. And it's like, you know, Nancy's fries, you know, and the John McCain shake. We ain't talking about Nancy Silverton in this bitch either. No, we ain't talking about Nancy Silverton. You know what I mean? Talking about the throat goat. Honestly, that's a vibe. That's a good idea for making money. It's a great idea. Yeah, like if you did a JFK Jr. sexier. JFK Jr. is sexier, but. You died in a plane crash, idiot. Yeah, it's true. Well, on that podcast, you were talking about pitching Reagan's to like a VC or an investment group of some sort. And they said, we think that might be a little too divisive of a thing for a company that we want to sell as many burgers to as many people. So have you considered independently funding this yourself or now that we're in a more of a conservative? Republican America or people sniffing around that pitch deck wanting to throw down some. Well, I think there's a huge opportunity now for, and I don't know what people are wearing anymore. I don't even know what people are buying from. I buy vintage and I buy a few brands that are conservative, preppy kind of golfy brands. I don't even know what.

I know the kids are buying fashion, but what's the 28-year-old to 42-year-old professional guy buying? Is he buying, like, Palo and James Purse and Diori? I think there's a massive gap in a made-in-America, you know, workwear, kind of athletic. everyday kind of all-around brand for guys that's like made in america like a carhartt like whip but like not just like so you look like you're driving you know a truck so something that the gap was when we were kids yeah like the gap but with a little bit of like a better uh thought more thought out you know but an ap an american apc if you will yeah yeah but but targeted towards americans and like paid to having a bit of Patriotism. So weird to be, like, patriotic now. Well, I don't think it has to be – I think made in the USA isn't really patriotic. It just feels like something that says quality to people. You know what I mean? I think people – when we were younger, being patriotic was not considered a bad thing. Right. And now lines have been a little bit blurred, so people don't really want to touch it or go there. But I feel like there's a way to reintroduce some healthy patriotism into the world, right? absolutely absolutely we got to focus on some of the good things that we have going on i mean it's it's difficult too but we have to i feel like we we have to neil brennan says neil brennan says every country has five things like that country has this this and this that is awesome but women can't vote and they kill gay people there so you know choose your you know like america has like a lot of fucked up stuff about it but like We still have a lot of... The top 10 American things are pretty good. What would you say the top 10 American things are? I'd love to go through this. Guns, pussy, cars. Hamburgers. What else we got? Monster truck. Houston's. We have Dintai Fun. Sure, sure. So you're naming all the stuff that is imported from other countries. I like that.

Uh, actually speaking of food, it might be, there's a lot of, there's a big Asian and Indian population in Houston actually, but it is, it is unrelated. Um, speaking of food, Chris and I, we're going to be doing this food festival, uh, infatuation eats con soon. And we are discussing sort of like the game plan of how do you navigate a festival that has like 50 different food stalls and you have to sort of pick your battles. I feel like you've attended. one or two food festivals in your day yeah do you have a strategy on how to consume the food there in a in a strategic way it's so hard man this is the one of the hardest questions i've ever been asked because you have a game plan i think well we used to do family fest i think it's called family style family style which which which hundred shirt did you wear I bought the John and Vinny's collaboration hand-painted chore coat for like $700. I literally still have it, dude. There's one of ten. They're like, well, at least John will buy this, but I don't know who else will. I think, yeah. We made ten of them for the whales. I think my son bought the Sugarfish Times Hundreds hoodie, I think. What a simpler time. That's my boy. That's my guy. That's my guy. That's my guy, dude. There were so many funny ones, dude. There's so many good ones. Oh, my God. The bod mosh socks. Like, I need those, dude. I need those bod mosh socks. These socks smell like curry. I don't care how many times you lost them. Damn. Butter chicken socks. So you're walking around this festival. You got a bottle of 1942 in one hand. Well, first of all, you go straight to the Natty Wine line. You've got to get some Natty Wines going. Some Natty in your cup. You want to get a base? You start some Natty Wine. You get a little base going. Some skin contact. I don't know. Orange maybe. And then I always head to the out-of-towners. So like Cat's Deli is there. You've got to do a little bit of the rarefied.

But also Cat's Deli. I'm in New York so much. I'm like, why am I waiting on it? I can do this in New York. And then I like to go to the Michelin star. Like John Yao from Cato is doing like a Thai salad. I'm like, that's got to be crazy. That's good. That's smart. So I start at the top, out of town, and then Michelin star guys. I think those are the – and those are usually smaller bites, so you still can like – And I also suggest you get there early because you can have lunch and dinner there. You're going to be there all day, right? I'm going to try not to eat anything. Don't eat anything for the day before. Oh, I'm not going to eat anything there, I'm saying. I'm going to try to go water fast and just enjoy the smells is what I'm kind of planning. Wow, that's interesting. I'm pushing myself. And then at the end of the night, he'll go home and jack off, and then he'll order a pizza or something. Simple. Clean it out of my system. Exactly. That is a good strategy, John. I like that. And then the last piece of that strategy is like, yeah, just at the end, just go to like whatever collab. There's some collabs happening. Get the pink dolphin corndog and then call it a night. Exactly. Exactly. Pink dolphin corndog was sick. Oh, God. That Rip and Dip taco is sick, too. The Rip and Dip double-decker. The Rip and Dip tacos 1986. Oh, shit. What a collaboration. Whatever happened to Rip and Dip? I feel like somebody made a lot of money and disappeared from Rip and Dip. I think it's still around. I think it's definitely still. I still see bus benches. Not everybody can unload everything like you. You've made an art form. You start it and you sell it. That's how God intended it. right that's right nothing grows to this guy and like you have this new brand which looks great by the way um and this is how many more of these you got in you you know what i'm saying that's it this is it this is it so i've been telling people this is this is the swan song the masterpiece listen

starting trough with the guys was great and starting uncle paulie's deli and all these other things that i've done and obviously my own brand but there's always things involved in when you start as an entrepreneur you get excited about something as a creative entrepreneur you get not excited about something really quick don't do that don't do that to gourmet john that's og shit no that's legend shit don't do that I actually was told, I was asked to bring gourmet back a couple of years ago. And I was like, no, no, no, we don't bring, we don't, we don't, we don't bring that. I don't want to remember that part of my life. Yeah. We don't do, uh, yeah, we don't do, uh, you know, we don't do a Carlito's way to man. Like we don't do Carlito's way to exactly. Okay. So, so the company Redan Redan Redan is, uh, so Redan is the masterpiece. It's combines, it combines me. I like to make stuff. particularly in italy and we have a chance and and now we're making a collection of accessories and apparel in italy i love going there i love that whole the whole thing um and then it's for golf and it's behind the wall of a membership uh a club so redan is a members only golf brand collections made in italy accessories apparel you have to pay a membership fee every year to join, to have access to. But if I pay the membership fee, I get, I'm getting invited to rounds of golf, et cetera. There's other benefits. I would say there's four main benefits to Redan. I'm not trying to do a sales pitch for Redan, but essentially when you join, you get access through an app to a collection of clothing and accessories all made in Italy from hats to. to bags to sweaters to knits to trousers to shorts etc and then we have a collaboration series that is starting we're doing a collaboration with tiffany and foot joy and a few other brands for this year and then we have access to a concierge service that gets you access to sought after over 150 to 200 oh you pay okay you have to pay but

Maybe you save up and you want to play LACC or you want to play Riviera or you want to play these places. You have access through Redan. We got you. You pay an unaccompanied fee and you get on to these courses through our network. And the last piece is we're doing a signature series of events from, you know, I'll just, the first event we did was last November. We went to Casa Cipriani in New York. We took helicopters to due process the next morning, played golf, came back, had a dinner at Teresi in the private dining room. The next day we went to Bayonne, took a ferry to Bayonne Country Club, came back and had a dinner in the wine, sorry, in the jazz room at the Casa Cipriani. So it's like super curated golf experiences, culinary to how you get there. to the golfs. That's just a little peek into what we're doing every day. If people want to become a member, they have to be vetted and approved. You can't just pay to get in. Essentially, for the first 250 members, we invited 250 members. You know, when Jeff Klein sent out the email for San Vicente Bungalow years ago or, you know, when you got the email for Soho House in New York from your friend, you got invited. When a boy becomes a man. I know exactly what you're talking about. Yeah, exactly. So we've invited the first 250. After that, the first 250 will have three referrals. So that'll come from like kind of a first degree of separation away. redan.club is the is the website to plug the website redan.club you can go fill out an application and apply as a as a um i don't know what we're calling it basically we're calling it like you can apply without a referral application we'll check you out like a walk-on yeah a walk-on walk-on exactly diplomatic sorry it's called a diplomatic application so so it's kind of like dorsia meets

Sporty and rich meets Hermes is what I'm gathering from the Instagram. That's right. That's right. But we're not making the loop. We're not doing dildos. I was always told that there was like a – Not yet. Your idea was the row for golf is what I was always told. That's right. That is right. So we're doing – well, the reason we say the row for golf is because I have such a massive respect for what those girls have done, one, from the styling and everything. But it's really – people don't – people don't realize, I mean, most people don't realize what they do from a material standpoint is, and they also have golf heritage, right? Their dad's a huge golfer. They've played golf. They played sports their whole life. Like they're like, also those are functional. That clothing is functional as well. So I just love that. And it's quiet, right? That's the, they are quiet luxury, right? Like they made that happen. I want, that's how we all kind of. dress no matter if it's you know a twenty dollar sweater from the vintage store to what you want to kind of be quiet i think in in this phase in our life and golf is so plastic and joggers and pants and shiny and guys look like they work at the auto parts store it's like it's true are you going to try to sponsor an athlete because that's that would be a big i would love to see that yeah so we have a few as members we have a few athletes that are members of the club like um you know ken griffey jr is a member and larry fitzgerald's a member and josh allen's a member and you know we have these kind of cool celebrity ken griffey jr the golf photographer yes the golf photographer ken griffey jr correct he's a member and then we have like you know jonas wood's a member and richard prince is a member two golf artist buddies of mine and then it's like richard prince is a golfer yes i didn't know that about him oh yeah he's sick Is he good? He's good, and he's, like, one of these, like, golf gives you a sickness. Like, it's, like, it's all you think about before you go to bed. It's all you want to do when you wake up. It's, like, they wrote books about this in the 50s about, like, guys, like, fucking their careers and families off because of golf. It's, like, a sickening thing. It spans, like, all genres of man, of human. Yeah. It's great. Well, the one thing about tennis and golf, I feel like, is that if you are doing it right, you're meeting people you wouldn't normally meet.

But you have this thing in common that you can bond over, and then it's like I have a friend who's a doctor now or whatever that I would have never met otherwise. I got paired up with them on an early morning game or something like that. Yeah, I went to go play. Exactly. I have so many now. I hung out with an Asian guy for the first time. It's crazy out there. I went to go play tennis with Michael Sherman. I show up. This is like eight years ago. It's like John Hamm's there. I'm like, okay, we're playing tennis. But with golf, it's like. Somebody pinch me. You know, you go to Lakeside and Burbank, it's like Joe Pesci's on the range with Andy Garcia. And you're like, all right, cool. And then you get on the course, it's like Jack Wagner from General Hospital, you know. Yeah, sure. And then it's like the CEO of American Express. And you're like, this fucking game's crazy. And listen, I'm not a star fucker, like celebrity, like, you know. But I also do enjoy, it's like people say, oh, I don't care. I do enjoy being around celebrities and like cool, interesting, very successful, popular people. Who doesn't? Like, I mean, and golf, you can, you can, golf's a great equalizer. You can play golf with, I played golf with Wayne Gretzky recently, right? It was like, he's my entire childhood, you know, like as an eight-year-old, you know, watching hockey. Was he wearing OVO or did you give him something? No. He was wearing all black, actually, all different. I don't know. He looked actually pretty good. His wife, Janet, is a complete legend. I love her. We played with her as well. Wayne Gretzky looks good. He looks great. He looks great. He looks great. His wife looks great. But you don't have those situations in any other way. He's a great alcoholic, too. Absolutely loves alcohol. He loves alcohol. That's true. Wait, doesn't he have a hot daughter that married a golfer? I'm not going to say. Yeah, his daughter Paulina married Dustin Johnson, who's like one of the biggest golfers of all time. Oh, yeah, he was on the show. He was on the show a little bit. Yeah, they were on the show. Paulina, she's a legendary person. They're from Thousand Oaks. You know, she grew up out in California. I mean, it's not unusual for a hockey player to be a drunk, you know. They kind of go hand in hand. Yeah, exactly. A lot of. How long gone.com is the website? John.

Thank you guys. Thank you so much for taking the time. We need to do a dinner at Henry's. Can we do that? Can we set that up? We'll get a table for 12. We'll curate the guest list. Next time I'm in town, let's do it. I would love to do that. When are you in town next? Can you send your calendar? Maybe we wait for Chris. Maybe we don't. Can you send your calendar? Yeah, I'll send my calendar. I'll send you the link to my calendar and you can just fill it in yourself. No, no. Send me your calendly. That is my least favorite. I'm so glad that's kind of died a slow death. I don't see that. Just grab some time. Grab some time in August would be awesome. Just grab some time. Yeah. All right. Thank you, John. Thank you, John. We'll see you soon, bro. Appreciate it. Bye, guys. Thank you.